{"id":656,"date":"2025-03-13T18:56:35","date_gmt":"2025-03-13T18:56:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pressbooks.ccconline.org\/ppscphi1012ethics\/chapter\/4-2-3-defending-relativism-the-argument-from-tolerance\/"},"modified":"2025-03-19T14:41:39","modified_gmt":"2025-03-19T14:41:39","slug":"4-2-3-defending-relativism-the-argument-from-tolerance","status":"publish","type":"chapter","link":"https:\/\/pressbooks.ccconline.org\/ppscphi1012ethics\/chapter\/4-2-3-defending-relativism-the-argument-from-tolerance\/","title":{"raw":"4.2.3\u00a0Defending Relativism: the Argument from Tolerance","rendered":"4.2.3\u00a0Defending Relativism: the Argument from Tolerance"},"content":{"raw":"<div class=\"4.2.3\u00a0defending-relativism:-the-argument-from-tolerance\">\r\n<p class=\"import-Normal\" style=\"background-color: #ffffff;\">Relativism isn\u2019t quite finished\u00a0yet though, since there is another popular argument in its favor that we haven\u2019t yet considered. This argument appeals to the once again seemingly obvious difficulty in coming to any kind of agreement about the meaning of basic moral terms.<\/p>\r\n\r\n<div class=\"textbox textbox--learning-objectives\"><header class=\"textbox__header\">\r\n<p class=\"textbox__title\">Here it is in explicit form:<\/p>\r\n\r\n<\/header>\r\n<div class=\"textbox__content\">\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li>When I say that human life is important, I mean one thing by that statement.<\/li>\r\n \t<li>When you say the same words, you mean something completely different.<\/li>\r\n \t<li>Hence relativism is true and there are no universal values.<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<p class=\"import-Normal\" style=\"background-color: #ffffff;\">Once again, this argument might convince someone who already is partial to relativism, since it might seem obvious that our different opinions about what moral concepts mean can only be rooted in fundamentally different value systems. But is this really so obvious? It seems to me that one reason why it appears so obvious to so many people has do to with a hidden assumption that is at work here. This hidden assumption is that everyone\u2019s values form a coherent whole, a system of inter-connected ideas, commitments and preferences that each of us uses to make sense of the world we live in and the rules of the social game within which we find ourselves as actors. According to this assumption values are passed on from generation to generation as complete \u201cpackages\u201d and not as individual ideas or preferences. If that is the case, and if moral terms only themselves makes sense within the context of different value systems, then it would be expected that people with different value systems would just have to mean different things by terms such as \u201cright and wrong.\u201d And, furthermore, if we are to learn how to get along with each other and tolerate other ways if life, this would also seem to entail tolerating entire value systems that might be very different than our own.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"import-Normal\" style=\"background-color: #ffffff;\">The question is, however\u00a0whether this assumption about the way things work with values is true. We will see some reasons to doubt it in the next section. For now, all that needs to be pointed out is that this assumption is itself just another way of expressing the fundamental claim made by relativism \u2013 that values are essentially rooted in some kind of cultural or personal framework. Thus this last argument really amounts to a restatement of relativism\u2019s basic outlook and shouldn\u2019t really count as an independent argument in its favor. If it were it would be another case of begging the question and that is\u00a0not\u00a0really a legitimate way of arguing anything.<\/p>\r\n\r\n<\/div>","rendered":"<div class=\"4.2.3\u00a0defending-relativism:-the-argument-from-tolerance\">\n<p class=\"import-Normal\" style=\"background-color: #ffffff;\">Relativism isn\u2019t quite finished\u00a0yet though, since there is another popular argument in its favor that we haven\u2019t yet considered. This argument appeals to the once again seemingly obvious difficulty in coming to any kind of agreement about the meaning of basic moral terms.<\/p>\n<div class=\"textbox textbox--learning-objectives\">\n<header class=\"textbox__header\">\n<p class=\"textbox__title\">Here it is in explicit form:<\/p>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"textbox__content\">\n<ul>\n<li>When I say that human life is important, I mean one thing by that statement.<\/li>\n<li>When you say the same words, you mean something completely different.<\/li>\n<li>Hence relativism is true and there are no universal values.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"import-Normal\" style=\"background-color: #ffffff;\">Once again, this argument might convince someone who already is partial to relativism, since it might seem obvious that our different opinions about what moral concepts mean can only be rooted in fundamentally different value systems. But is this really so obvious? It seems to me that one reason why it appears so obvious to so many people has do to with a hidden assumption that is at work here. This hidden assumption is that everyone\u2019s values form a coherent whole, a system of inter-connected ideas, commitments and preferences that each of us uses to make sense of the world we live in and the rules of the social game within which we find ourselves as actors. According to this assumption values are passed on from generation to generation as complete \u201cpackages\u201d and not as individual ideas or preferences. If that is the case, and if moral terms only themselves makes sense within the context of different value systems, then it would be expected that people with different value systems would just have to mean different things by terms such as \u201cright and wrong.\u201d And, furthermore, if we are to learn how to get along with each other and tolerate other ways if life, this would also seem to entail tolerating entire value systems that might be very different than our own.<\/p>\n<p class=\"import-Normal\" style=\"background-color: #ffffff;\">The question is, however\u00a0whether this assumption about the way things work with values is true. We will see some reasons to doubt it in the next section. For now, all that needs to be pointed out is that this assumption is itself just another way of expressing the fundamental claim made by relativism \u2013 that values are essentially rooted in some kind of cultural or personal framework. Thus this last argument really amounts to a restatement of relativism\u2019s basic outlook and shouldn\u2019t really count as an independent argument in its favor. 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